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Tribe stops effort to strip status
by Bob Shiles
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PEMBROKE — The Lumbee Tribe of North Carolina and other state-recognized tribes will remain members of the National Congress of the American Indian despite a recent effort to strip them of that status, according to local tribal officials.

During the NCAI’s annual convention last week in Sacramento, Calif., a proposed amendment calling for membership to the NCAI to be open to only federally recognized tribes was voted down. The amendment was sponsored by Kerry Holton, the former president of the Delaware Nation from Oklahoma.

A related amendment, that sets the process by which a state-recognized tribe can become a member of NCAI, was approved. The two amendments were among nine that were considered at the convention.

“The overwhelming vote against Amendment 1 solidifies the direction and the voice that NCAI will seek for Indian Country for many, many, many years to come,” said Larry Townsend, vice president of the National Congress’ southeast area and a Lumbee tribal member. Townsend said the region he represents includes about 25 tribes.

Townsend joined 16 members of the Lumbee Tribal Council and the tribe’s attorney, Ed Brooks, in attending the event.

Pearlean Revels, speaker of the Lumbee Tribal Council and a delegate to the convention, told The Robesonian that all members of the Lumbee delegation worked hard to lobby to defeat the amendment.

“We all networked with members from other tribes and stood in doorways handing out fliers opposing the referendum,” she said.

Council member Louise Mitchell also attended the convention.

“We all did the leg work,” she said. “It would have been detrimental to the tribe if that amendment had passed. The NCAI is our voice on the Hill. We need to be a member.”

Both Revels and Mitchell expressed their concerns that the council is being accused by some of wasting tribal dollars by going to conventions such as the one they just attended.

“But you need to have a voice at the table,” Revels said. “Our representation at the convention was well worth every dollar spent by the tribe.”

Townsend said he believes the large number of Lumbee delegates at the convention worked in the best interest of the tribe.

“There’s no doubt that it was good for there to be a large number of Lumbees there to protect our interests,” he said.

Tribal Chairman Paul Books, who did not attend the convention, issued a statement emphasizing the importance of defeating the proposed amendment restricting NCAI membership to just federally recognized tribes.

“This constitutional amendment would have changed the identity of Indian,” Brooks said. “… The proposed change would put the power of recognition exclusively in the hands of the federal government, not recognizing tribal inherent sovereignty, which can be acknowledged by this organization,” he said.

The state-recognized Lumbee Tribe has been seeking full federal recognition and benefits for years.

Founded in 1944, NCAI advocates for all tribes on such issues as education, housing, taxation, transportation and law enforcement, according Townsend.

“The purpose of NCAI is to be a unified voice of tribal nations on the national level,” he said. “This past week, the congress has rejected the divisive resolution … as it runs against NCAI’s longstanding practice of including the interest of all Indian tribes, even if they have not yet been federally recognized, or terminated by Congress.”

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Rogey
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March 11, 2013
What about the historical report as Pembroke as a black town in the 1872 new York herald a clear description as Black not Indian?? Ross what do you think? the origin of lumbees seems to be here and correct?

THE MULATTO CAPITAL,Robeson County

Origin of the Free NEGRO Settlement

LUMBERTON,N.C.Feb.26,1872,NEW YORK TIMES.

"The country was settled first by Scotch Highlanders before the Revolution,These Scotch SLAVEHOLDERS were hard masters.Here also were the Scuffletown Mulattoes-imposed upon for many generations by master and slave,Scuffletown(PEMBROKE,NC),

got its name from the long scuffle of the whites and the Negro slaves and make freedom under the condition of color,contemptible among the mulattoes.I conceive that these NEGROES have been the slaves of Tories driven from the State at the close of the Revolution,and of the emancipated slaves of the Quakers,that they increased and multiplied by accessions from runaways,

by the birth rate of force exerted on them an by the necessity of union or the sympathy of all neighboring free negroes with a"HOMOGENOUS NEGRO SETTLEMENT"(PEMBROKE, NC)

New York Times 1872,a description of the Lumbee Capitol not as Indian but Negro!

Rogey
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March 11, 2013
1.PETITION OF CROATAN INDIANS.. To the Congress of the United States,December 1887. For recognition as "Croatan Indians"with a sign sworn petition as "Croatans".Robeson County signers

"The undersigned, your petitioners,a part of the Croatan Indians..Swear Descent from the Lost Colony of Roanoke" The Bill did not pass.

2. 1910 (January 24).Introduction of a bill in the U.S. House of Representatives to change the tribe's name from Croatan to Cherokee. The bill did not pass.

3. 1913 (July 10).Introduction of a bill in the U.S.Senate to change the tribe's name from Indians of Robeson County to Cherokee Indians of Robeson County. The bill did not pass.

4. 1924 (March 20).Introduction of a bill in the U.S. House to change the tribal name to Cherokee. The bill did not pass.

5. 1932 (May 9).A bill was introduced in the U.S.Senate to recognize and enroll the tribe as Cherokee Indians.The bill did not pass

I don't see how anyone could trust the lumbees research now as saraw too !
Rogey
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March 11, 2013
I read in an online post that the Lumbee Croatan delegation lobbied 4 times before congress over 40 years to be recognized and enrolled as "Cherokee Indians" from 1920 thru 1940. the lumbee approached congress with these bills of their own free will so how can you now claim to be so sure based on a maybe ancestry of Saraw or Cheraw ,

Real Native Americans are very exacting in their ancestry and don't make those kind of claims,it would seem allot of fabrication has happened and uncertainty among the group now claiming to be lumbee Indians.

I will post theseclaims because im sure some Lumbee will call me a racist when im not im native American from Okla.and you can verify for yourself that happen,i don't wanna call Lumbees liars but if it quacks like a duck then it must be!

what do you guys think ! ROSS??
carolinabluecollar
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November 05, 2012
The lumbee act is a joke, full of crooks and clowns from top to bottom, past to present. They will never gain federal benefits because the tribe is a coverup for north carolina. The state tolerates the lumbee's greedy and greasy palmed leaders because it cost way less than it would to recognize them as tuscaroras
thirstforknowledge
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November 07, 2012
The Lumbee Act, heck the idea of a Lumbee tribe is a joke. Where is the proof of any tribal ancestors, much less the Tuscarora? What exactly does that mean "the state tolerates the lumbee's greedy and greasy palmed leaders because it cost less"?
mrlumbee3
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November 16, 2012
Let this marinate on your brain for a second. If your not "Native American" then how does the word "Lumbee" upset you so much? Calling the Lumbee Act and Tribe a joke. Do we amuse you? Want me to do a lil' jig for ya boss?

We don't need federal benefits, some of us have and are still doing well without it. For the ones that could use it, I hope they benefit from it. Ya'll (Americans) afraid of the red man doing better than you, huh? Maybe it would sit better with you if we all just packed up and moved to England? Bust up in the Queen's home and put her in the street. We wouldn't be cruel, we would give a few british pounds to our new stinky pale faced friends every now and then. Then put them on the most useless land and let them call that home. We can rename England, New Wakulla!!

"Crooks and clowns from top to bottom, past to present." I agree, but they had a few mentors along the way. America was built by crooks and clowns. There have been 44 circus ring leaders thus far and some are even etched in a South Dakota mountain. I guess some nice person decided to etch big faced clowns onto someone else's property for a big laugh huh?

I'm glad you people respond to anything with "Lumbee" on it. You show your true colors. Just hate and despise a group of people. Same treatment you show to Arabics. I will take your hate and use it to fuel my motivation.
shiprince
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November 05, 2012
I thought by now Nothingbutthetruth 0r some Lumbee would'hv responded to my post.

That goes to show when it comes to defending their tribe when true facts are projected to them they all run.

So..forget about federal funding..get a turkey and eat your hearts out.

@Ross, Thankyou for the compliment. You're right I don't hate the Lumbees or anyone for that matters. What I do dislike are Bigots,Racist and people who Stereotype.

RobCo is infected with so much prejudice and hate to the point where it makes all residents in the county look foolish. But yet everyone has to live, shop, work, and try to enjoy their persuit of happiness in the same place.

There's prejudice when a crime article hits the paper. Which that's a crying shame. Despite the fact that crime has no color or race..but has a major affect on the whole County.

To all you Old Heads that post here..let go of that Backwoods Trailer Park InBreed Mentality you've all displayed here.

And start attacking the issues that affects you all such as...The poor Education system in the County...The lack of Jobs that are in the County despite all the Dormant factory space that's just there to be there.

In closing..RobCo is in bad shape and noone wants to admit it!!
shiprince
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November 03, 2012
@ Nothingbutthetruth, It's obvious your name does'nt match with your comments.

First off the Lumbees were'nt around in the days you spoke of as the other tribes were.

Next They dont even have one artifact to prove that they were around in those days. So how could they give up...When they didn't exsist?

How far back can they trace their history?

They're the only tribe that celebrates ThanksGiving other tribes don't!!

Lumbees are a mixture of Black, White, and Indian.(tuscarora)

Their leaders have made a farce of the whole tribe many times in just this year alone.( you know stealing monies, shaming on housing deals..etc)

Far as DSS...Lumbees and Mexicans are the majority of the people that are there on a daily basis. Take a walk in DSS and see for yourself.

Are you trying to justify the prejudice the Lumbees display in Pembroke? Buy saying if you look different (whats your meaning of looking different?)they'll look at you strange. The Tuscaroras are dark skinned people and way more Indian then any Lumbees could ever be..and they recieve prejudice from the Lumbees. Even though thats the 1/4 of Indian blood that runs through the Lumbees bodys that you so proudly talk about.

In closing...Here's a thought for everyone...Since the Lumbees are only based in RobCo which we all know ...when a Hunt marries a Hunt..is that incest?

ROSSisRIGHT
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November 02, 2012
nothinbuttruth: I don't make "racial remarks", I make human remarks.. I talk about people, good or bad. I see humans, YOU SEE RACE. I talk about the issues, you only hear RACE.

The leaves are falling off all the trees around here.... Again, THE LEAVES ARE FALLING OFF THE TREES AROUND HERE!.... Now, does that mean I hate trees? Hmmmm?
nothingbutthetruth
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November 03, 2012
So what did you mean by your comment (Take a minute to look at those two "representing" the tribe and you'll understand as to why the Delaware Nation of Oklahoma wanted the lumbee's out.)
ROSSisRIGHT
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November 03, 2012
nothinbuthetrh: Ummm, I was pointing out how those two representing the tribe look like wealthy business owners who are successful.

But I guess YOU thought they are too WHITE, didn't you?......

SHIPRINCE: I agree with everything you said. Well put, and truthful.

PS. I don't think you hate lumbee's either, you were just pointing out truths. Very well put, sir.
shiprince
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November 01, 2012
I agree with Ross this time.

I've posted many times about the prejudice that the Lumbees have towards anyone unlike them.

Even if you're one of them..if you're not in that good ole boy circle they have you're short.

Revels and Townsend look like ordinary white folk to me.

nothingbutthetruth
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November 02, 2012
ordinary white folk! what a laugh, have you been to other tribes and seen the people who represent them? alot are people who are a whole lot whiter then the two posted above. Skin color does not define your race, I'm suprised that the editor continues to let the racial remarks of Ross and his followers to be posted on here! You say the tribe want help others well DUHHHH If you are not Native they cant help you it is not their law it is a law imposed on them by let me guess your congress and senate which is majority your Ordinary looking white folk lol the tribe does not make the rules they have to abide by them. Why can't Natives go to DSS and get help they want help natives they will tell you go to the tribe they have funds for that, in order to be a member of the tribe you must be atleast 1/4 native so you see someone can still look white and represnt the tribe and not all natives lived on reservations the only natives that lived on reservations are the ones who made the choice to give up and let the white man win the reason why Natives around here dont have a reservation is because they have never gave up and continue to fight for whats rightfully theirs, have you ever been in a white neighborhood as a black man and walked down the road to see how many people would look at you funny well what about a white man walking threw a black neighborhood well it is the same thing if you dont look like you belong people by nature are going to look and be curious to what you are doing there the town of pembroke has come along way from what it use to be like, I can remember when you would never see a black man drive a car threw there I can remember when if you was from the saddletree area where other natives in Robco live and went to Pembroke the law would pull you and say you need to leave town, they have come along way maybe you and Ross needs to join them and try to get over your negative thinking and racial remarks
listen_up
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November 02, 2012
nothingbutthetruth

the only thing DSS doesn't help native american's with is the Federally funded heating and cooling crisis intervention program. & that is because the tribe lobbied for those funds to be allocated to THEM, for THEM to distribute to the Native American people. So you can thank the tribe for not being able to receive that assistance at DSS. Furthermore, the tribe is supposed to help ALL Native Americans with those funds, yet they discriminate against all other tribes, and only help the Lumbee. They turn Cherokee, Tuscarora, etc. away. So yes they do have prejudice against others unlike them.
nothingbutthetruth
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November 03, 2012
well the ball is in your court if you feel you are being discriminated aginst go over there heads feel free, I dont blame you but let me ask you this if you are not Lumbee why would you go to the Lumbee tribe for help? If you go to church over here and pay your tithes then why go to the other church for help wouldn't you think the church you was a member at would be the one assisting you, I know alot of Tuscaroas that go to the tribe and get help so where is your proof? If you can prove they are not helping other Natives in the area that are enrolled in a tribe then you would have a good case of Discrimination but now the catch to getting the assistance is you have to be a enrolled member of a native american tribe
ROSSisRIGHT
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October 31, 2012
Take a minute to look at those two "representing" the tribe and you'll understand as to why the Delaware Nation of Oklahoma wanted the lumbee's out.

One of the questions they ask is "have your people been forced to live on a reservation"... and of course the answer is "no"...

All other "real indian tribes" are still angry about those "reservations", But the lumbee's are angry they DIDN'T get to live on one. They are busy now trying to create their own reservation.
itzme
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October 31, 2012
@ rossisright - blah blah blah - if you are not part of the solution then you are part of the problem.
TIREDOFFOOLERY
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October 31, 2012
Ross you are right a reservation is being made out of the TOWN of Pembroke, which is a horrible injustice to the rest of the population. When visiting this town you are often treated as an outcast and finding or applying for a job if your not a "member" of the tribe is definitely not going to happen. No group should be able to take over a town that is governed by the state. Everyone should be proud of their heritage but enough is enough.
Sicktodeath
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November 01, 2012
Poor Ross it is sad or maybe funny that you are so deprived in life and only have the Lumbee Indians to comsume your time. The Lumbee are just fine and could not be forced to live on a "reservation" our forefathers were strong and pound and that is the reason we are the majority in Robeson County and face it this is our county. Poor, Poor Ross!!!!
Power2thepeople
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November 01, 2012
@Sicktodeath, careful, careful now. I know who you want to portray yourself as but, readers know you may be anyone, trying to be who you are not. For that reason alone, this blog has the potential to create more problems than it solves.

Then again, it just allows all the sickness in this county to expell it's vomit on the web. ;-)
Sicktodeath
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November 02, 2012
@power2thepeople, no one who ever comments to anything reported in this paper that creates more problems than Rossisright, who by the way is always WRONG. The statments Ross makes about one group of people should not even be allowed to be printed, but it seems like you think its alright and no one should say a word, well you also are wrong.
ROSSisRIGHT
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November 02, 2012
Sick: Well, since your forefathers were so "pound", what's going on today with all their hands out wanting another mans hard earned money? Pride?

Also you're right about the lumbees being the majority in Robeson county. So why do they continue to yell WE ARE MINORITIES! Look, you can't have it both ways, either you are or you ain't.

ITZME: I am the solution. I'm trying to disband this race club everyday. I don't like any club that only allows membership based on ones race. You know, sorta like the KKK. One race one membership card.

TIREDOFTHEFOOLERY: You are so RIGHT! What's so funny is they will say whites are the race of hate and discrimination.. Jesus Christ couldn't get a job in pembroke or at the tribe office. He's a Jew, but he's not demanding free housing based on that.
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