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RCC gets $300,000, and an earful
by Bob Shiles
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LUMBERTON — The county Board of Commissioners on Thursday gave Robeson Community College $300,000 to help pay the college’s May and June bills, but not without criticizing college President Charles Chrestman and how the community college is carrying out its fiscal responsibilities. The Robesonian was also criticized for its coverage of the college’s financial woes.

Commissioner Noah Woods, the board’s chairman and a member of the RCC board of trustees, opened the budget work session by criticizing RCC’s fiscal management.

“Information provided this body by the president of Robeson Community College in support of a supplemental budget allocation clearly shows that budgetary and fiscal management at that institution is in severe disarray, or must believe they can operate the college in a manner not unlike the Congress of the United States,” said in a statement. “… Taxpayers of this county expect their elected officials, who are responsible for appropriating funds for public purposes, to ensure that those funds are reasonably well managed.

“A cursory review of RCC’s practices for the past three years demonstrates a pattern of annual overspending by college personnel that is inexcusable by any standard of prudent budget and fiscal management,” Woods said. “… It is not the purview of the Robeson County Board of Commissioners to attempt to micro-manage the fiscal affairs of Robeson County Community College, however, as the lawful authority for public funds collected from the citizens of this county we as a body must review our processes and procedures as they relate to Robeson County Community College’s budget allocation from county funds.”

A reporter for The Robesonian was then asked by the commissioners if he or his “boss” at the newspaper had been contacted by Chrestman.

“It sells newspapers,” Commissioner Jerry Stephens said.

The Robesonian was not contacted by Chrestman concerning the matter, except on May 23 when he called the newspaper to inform it of a board of trustees meeting the next day. That conversation lasted less than 30 seconds.

Earlier this month, Chrestman asked the commissioners on behalf of the trustees for an additional allocation of $341,000 so the school can pay for May and June maintenance and operations costs. This is the third consecutive year that he has come before the board at the end of the fiscal year to request more money.

According to Chrestman and the trustees, the county the past three years has not allocated RCC enough to cover the school’s costs for maintenance and operations, forcing the college to ask for additional funding to meet end-of-fiscal year expenses. Each year the county has allocated RCC $1.9 million for operations and maintenance. Money has also been allocated for roof repairs, with this year that amount totaling $225,000.

Chrestman emphasized Thursday that the additional expenses have resulted from repairs to aging HVAC systems, unanticipated emergency repairs, and high energy costs. He said that according to the college’s chief finance officer, RCC currently has about $4,200 on hand to pay $100,000 in May maintenance and operating bills and the anticipated $190,280 in June bills. Some bills can be rolled over to the next fiscal year.

In requesting the $341,000, Chrestman told the commissioners that anything less would put a strain on next year’s college fiscal operations and maintenance budget, since the unpaid bills would have to be paid out of the next fiscal year county appropriation.

Although the county’s proposed budget for 2012-13 will increase to $2 million with funding for capital projects being increased to $300,000, Chrestman said that is already below the $2,328,919 the college projects will be needed to fund maintenance and operations costs for the fiscal year.

“If we don’t have enough money, there’s a possibility I will have to recommend that the college be closed for a certain amount of time,” Chrestman told the board. “I’m not saying we will close the college, but I need options.”

With the amount of funding the county plans to allocate RCC during the next budget year, Chrestman told The Robesonian that the college will be about seven and a quarter weeks short of maintenance and operation funds for a full year.

“If that happens, I will have to get direction from my board on what action to take,” he said. “We may have to discontinue evening classes or do something else that I would consider far out from the normal.”

Chrestman had little to say about allegations of fiscal mismanagement.

“Managing a community college is a complex business,” he said. “Understanding a community college budget is also complex. We have done a good job managing state, county and other revenue sources. If not, the state auditor wouldn’t have given us a clean report and said how good of a job we are doing.”

Chrestman also said that the fact that the college has run out of money before the end of the past three fiscal years is not an indication of mismanagement.

“It indicates there is not enough cash on hand to run the institution properly,” he said. “Like with any family or business budget, if you don’t have the money you can’t pay the bills.”

Stephens and Commissioner Roger Oxendine directed numerous questions to Chrestman about college expenditures, contractual services, and spending.

“I want to help you as much as I can, but I’m having a hard time with some of this,” Oxendine said, citing a landscaping bill as an example. “There are so many things here that you people should have your hands on when you put your budget together.”

Commissioner Raymond Cummings told Chrestman that RCC needs to cut expenditures in all areas.

“Our manager is tough on all departments,” he said. “We’re trying to hold the line on expenditures. Money is tight. We don’t want to raise taxes.”

Commissioner David Edge said he thought some board members were being too “tough” on Chrestman. He suggested the county give RCC the amount of funding requested for the next fiscal year and make it clear that there will be no additional county funding.

“Let’s give it up front and say don’t come back for more,” Edge said.

The recommendation was quickly shot down by other commissioners who argued no matter how much funding the college receives, it will spend every dollar and then at the end of the fiscal year come back to the board asking for more.

After a long discussion, the commissioners agreed to request a line-item breakdown of RCC’s proposed operations and maintenance budget for the upcoming fiscal year.

“We have worked hard to find anywhere we can save money,” George Regan, chairman of RCC’s board of trustees, told The Robesonian. “We’ve stretched the rubber band as far as it will stretch and now it has popped.”

In other budget matters, the commissioners tweaked, but made no major changes, to the $141.8 million fiscal 2012-13 budget proposed by Ricky Harris, the county’s interim county manager. The budget calls for the current property tax rate of 77 cents per $100 of property value to remain the same, and does not provide for new staff positions or layoffs.

Most significant changes to the original budget proposal include:

— Increasing the budget for the Robeson County Public Library from $270,000 to $300,000.

— Increasing the Sheriff’s Department allocation for vehicles from $150,000 to $250,000.

— Reducing the proposed allocation for COMtech from $196,000 to $96,000.

A public hearing on the proposed budget will be held on June 18.

During Thursday’s meeting the board also voted to decline an offer from the Public Schools of Robeson County to accept the old Townsend Middle School gym. Only Commissioners Hubert Sealey and Jerry Stephens voted in favor of accepting the building.

According to Hal Kinlaw, the school system can now sell or lease the building to any one it desires.

“We don’t need more real estate,” Kinlaw said. “The schools need money more than the county needs a building.”

Town officials in Maxton have been pushing for the county to accept the building and then turn the facility over to the town to be used as a community center.

Reach staff writer Bob Shiles at 910-272-6117 or bshiles@heartlandpublications.com.

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JudgementDay
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June 04, 2012
I understand that light bills and everything else goes up, but come on we need to budget money wisely and take care of the money we receive. If I only get $500.00 a month then I know that is what's coming in and I will use it to produce and pay my bills. So come now, let RCC do the same they need to spend money like it is their money and not everyone else's. We cry about everything but do we really know what is going on. Talk among yourselves and know that medical bills are out the roof, medicine is up, insurance is high and education who can afford it without some assistance. So yes, RCC might have record enrollment but think what parents and people that are working are paying, with some people falling through the cracks. I think the commissioner should asks some of the questions they did, just maybe things would be different. Put classes back at the community college level to train people to get work in the field of brick, carpentry, auto body, and other fields needed to get a job to help pay taxes. Just a few thoughts for you.
put2and2together
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June 04, 2012
After reading the article regarding RCC's issues a thought crossed my mind. RCC has an established HVAC program. Why can't advanced students use their knowledge to fix the colleges ailing system as a practical exercise? For that matter, they have electrical classes also. I didn't see construction but considering the need perhaps they can start one. Perhaps the students can get an education, hands on experience and help the community at the same time.
WakeUpRobCo
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June 04, 2012
This should not even be an issue. Common sense states that if the light bills go up at home, they go up every where else. The same is true here. The commissioners have voted to increase spending on their own bills but yet allot the same amount of money for RCC to pay their bills for the past 3 years or so. The county wants the school to operate and offer a vast curriculum to accommodate the current unemployment rates but yet does not want to invest.

Unless I overlooked a comment, I saw no comments from someone in education that said RCC should not get the money. The education industry has so much red tape that it's amazing anyone actually receives an education! When the budgets are given, certain money is used for this while other money is used for that. As an example, equipment can be purchased from one pot of money if it is less than $1000. If it's more than $1000 then another pot of money has to be used. My understand for school budgets is that the state and federal money does not allot for utilities and maintenance. If that's such a big issue, then write your congressman or congresswoman because the problem is not with RCC.

Using Chrestman's comment about the commissioners not letting the school down in the past as a negative just proves people in Rob. Co. will find anything to complain about. I read the comment to say that the commissioners and the college had a great working relationship; not that the college saw county money as an open checkbook. I guess if I was to say that my favorite color was blue, someone would say I hated all the other colors and since black was one of those colors then I hate black people (which I saw a comment where someone tried to bring up race).

The fact of the matter is this, the economy is garbage right now. The price of everything is going up to include utility bills. Everyone has noticed it these past few years. The question I ask you all is this, with the increase in everything in our lives, do you still continue to allot the same amount of money to various things as you did before? No? Well that's what the commissioners are doing with RCC and have voted to do it yet again.

Common sense should dictate these sorts of situations. But then again, if common sense was so common, everyone would have it.
ReallyRobeson?
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June 16, 2012
Sorry, but your analogy about colors makes no sense. I'm not a citizen who automatically assumes negativity but if you see the RCC Administration's year after year after year track record of spending more than they're budgeted and then making the casual statement that the BOC always comes through for them as anything other than an open checkbook view of taxpayer money, you need a reality check. In this tough economy you mention, all of us have to tighten our belts and become better managers of the resources we have available; excuse me, all of us except folks that get the taxpayers to cover for their lack of mgmt. skills by going back to the trough. Your failure to hold these folks accountable is what they feed on. Just a thought.
ReedyQLewis
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June 03, 2012
Let me see if I understand this correctly. RCC has had record enrollment for 3 years in a row, and have to go begging the Board every year because the Board does not have common sense enough to realize that the price of EVERYTHING goes up EVERY year, yet they don't want to raise taxes in order to keep their little precious positions.

People, all this is just a political dog and pony show, meant to fool the citizens into believing that you can keep the tax rate low and still provide the same services. Finance 101: Something has to get cut out, meaning your children and grandchildren's education.

The great irony is, that commissioner is a board member of RCC, yet he claims he doesn't know how to manage expenses?! He's part of them, so that's EXACTLY what he's saying! Once again, Robeson county's best and brightest!
JudgementDay
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June 02, 2012
I think the commissioner did a great job. People who are on fixed income should paid for people spending like there is no end. People are being layed off, while retired personnel are talking their jobs. What would you do if these people were your children, wife, husband or someone you loved regardless of race, religon, or any other item you can think of. Pray that is what we need.
LuckyLocklear
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June 02, 2012
Two important county organizations at odds. This needs to be resolved quickly. This does not help the county's reputation.
Llowry
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June 02, 2012
I read this story with great sadness. I have a daughter who attends RCC and is getting a good education. The commissioners need to support Robeson Tech because it is one of the few places that is truly helping young people get jobs. Mr. Woods is on the Board and should know this.
bigtnc
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June 01, 2012
So Noah Woods sits on the RCC board of trustees month after month year after year and watches this go on, then critisizes RCC for over spending, when he is as much to blame as a trustee as Crestman! What a hipacrite. I compare what woods is doing to a husband that goes shopping with his wife, watches her spend all their money and then fusses her out after they dont have money to pay the bills at the end of the month.
cchrestman
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June 02, 2012
nice observation.
ReallyRobeson?
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June 02, 2012
Just a little off base here bigtnc. Sitting on a board of trustees is a far cry from having day to day decision making ability about the expenditure of funds. The good Dr summed it up perfectly in the first article reporting on the request for additional funds when he stated that the Commissioners had always come through for him in the past. That one statement is very telling as it suggests the cavalier attitude he holds where the spending of money is concerned; scratch that, the overspending of money. An attitude of don't worry, they always give us more should raise flags to every one of us. As a side note, RCC does offer classes which can assist you with your spelling issues and help their budget shortfall as a bonus. Just a thought.
CitizenforabetterRobCo.
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June 01, 2012
A few facts to consider...-state $$ money received by RCC can not be used for maintenance expenses (not the commissioners or RCC's rule)Maintenance and operation expenses must be paid by the county.

-tuition fees collected by RCC does not stay at RCC. They must be forward to the state.

-Of over 50 community colleges, RCC "consistantly" is among the lowest funded schools by their county based on # of students.

-RCC had extensive tornado damage last year and associated ground cleanup would be considered "landscaping".

-RCC has not received an increase in funding in three years while student enrollment has broken records for the past few years. Usually more students mean more expenses.

There are a lot of people in this county who have not had a raise in three years either and are finding it harder and harder to make ends meet, without a tornado doing damage to property adding deductible and cleanup expenses. It is insulting to claim the finances are in "severe disarray" when there has been no increase in three years. Quit arguing and think of the people who utilize this school each year. It is the 2,700 students who are the ones truly struggling. If education is as important as you claim it is, how about giving an increase to at least match inflation each year. My pay sure does not go as far as it did three years ago even if it is the same amount. And as for a line item breakdown of the proposed budget, how about doing that for all budgets you currently fund. If you had done that years ago, the county would not be in as bad a shape that it is in.

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JCraig66
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June 01, 2012
Thought it was kinda odd that the county board chairman was criticizing how irresponsible the school had been in managing finances while at the same time he sits on the board. I also wonder how a handful can serve on so many boards and be effective on any of them. Welcome to the matrix.
PercyKution
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June 01, 2012
RCC will be back at the trough for more TAXPAYER dollars soon. And they'll get it. Always do. And split the take with a couple CLOWNMISSIONERS probably.
ReallyRobeson?
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June 01, 2012
My admiration and respect goes out to the Board of Commissioners who apparently "get" that Dr. Chrestman's administration views our tax $ as an open checkbook to be tapped into year after year because RCC won't operate within their budget. If my business, or any other that I know of, had the ability to write checks on the taxpayer as it wanted I doubt that I'd operate within my budget either. How about it Commissioner Edge? You ran a successful campaign (which I supported) touting your business experience. Do your bankers and creditors just go along year after year when you spend more than allotted? Just a thought.
tellingitlikeitis
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June 01, 2012
“Managing a community college is a complex business,” he said. “Understanding a community college budget is also complex. We have done a good job managing state, county and other revenue sources. If not, the state auditor wouldn’t have given us a clean report and said how good of a job we are doing.” Wow, did Chrestman just call the Commissioners a bunch of idiots who don't know anything about budgets? And he still got money from them. Maybe he should look at cutting more people in the program where he dismissed 6 african americans and 1 native american. Surely, their not the only ones in that department.

Read more: The Robesonian - RCC gets 300 000 and an earful
interestedperson
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June 01, 2012
REALLY? MY TAX DOLLARS ARE BEING GIVEN TO THESE PEOPLE AT THE COLLEGE TO PAY THEIR BILLS AND I STILL HAVE TO PAY FOR MY DAUGHTER TO ATTEND THERE AND I SURE DON'T GET A BREAK ON HER TUITION! AND YES, I DO HAVE TO PAY EVERY PENNY OUT OF MY OWN POCKET BECAUSE SHE CAN'T GET ANY ASSISTANCE. SO, I AM WORKING TWO JOBS TO PAY FOR COLLEGE AND STILL PAY TAXES AND MY OWN BILLS AND THEY GET THE MONEY GIVEN TO THEM TO PAY THEIR BILLS. WHERE IS ALL OF THE TUITION MONEY GOING? SOUNDS TO ME LIKE THEY NEED TO CUT OUT SOME OF THOSE "UPPER" POSITIONS THAT DON'T DO ANYTHING BUT SIT ON THEIR ASS AND GET PAID FOR NOTHING. THERE YOU GO, THAT IS A SOLUTION TO YOUR FINANCIAL PROBLEMS RIGHT THERE!
DaveD
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June 02, 2012
Sigh. I knew someone would have to bring race into it. You just can't help yourself, can you?
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